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	<title>Comments on: Protect &amp; Serve? Philadelphia Police Brutality</title>
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		<title>By: Lake Arlington</title>
		<link>http://uvtblog.com/2008/05/protect-serve-philadelphia-police-brutality/comment-page-1/#comment-10922</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake Arlington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, that&#039;s true, not all are bad.  But the ones that aren&#039;t still protect the ones that are.  They don&#039;t turn on them, even when they kill us.  And police departments have been corrupt a lot longer than they&#039;ve been legitimate, to the extent they now are.  thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that&#8217;s true, not all are bad.  But the ones that aren&#8217;t still protect the ones that are.  They don&#8217;t turn on them, even when they kill us.  And police departments have been corrupt a lot longer than they&#8217;ve been legitimate, to the extent they now are.  thx</p>
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		<title>By: aaliyah</title>
		<link>http://uvtblog.com/2008/05/protect-serve-philadelphia-police-brutality/comment-page-1/#comment-10921</link>
		<dc:creator>aaliyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you say they wonder why people hate cops, but not all police are violent with suspects, or just poeple in general.
thats a small percentage.
and hey, your beliefs are your beliefs but not all cops are bad.
most actually want to help, not hurt others.
but yes, SOME re assholes who do things and get away with them cause theyre cops.

i think that if the police are looking for someone, find the RIGHT person, THEN ITS OKAY TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM.

but i mean, if they have the wrong person, and they know its the wrong person, thats just fucked up.



but you have to realize, cops have feelings too.
they have families.
if they have a daughter who was raped (or even if she wasnt raped) and they catch a rapist,
they will just be thinking of her, and keeping her safe while putting that jerk in cuffs.
and of course, like any other person, theyll probably lose their temper. i am not justifying that beating someone to a bloody pulp is okay. i am just saying, police are not robots no matter how much you wish they were. they are real people with real feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you say they wonder why people hate cops, but not all police are violent with suspects, or just poeple in general.<br />
thats a small percentage.<br />
and hey, your beliefs are your beliefs but not all cops are bad.<br />
most actually want to help, not hurt others.<br />
but yes, SOME re assholes who do things and get away with them cause theyre cops.</p>
<p>i think that if the police are looking for someone, find the RIGHT person, THEN ITS OKAY TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM.</p>
<p>but i mean, if they have the wrong person, and they know its the wrong person, thats just fucked up.</p>
<p>but you have to realize, cops have feelings too.<br />
they have families.<br />
if they have a daughter who was raped (or even if she wasnt raped) and they catch a rapist,<br />
they will just be thinking of her, and keeping her safe while putting that jerk in cuffs.<br />
and of course, like any other person, theyll probably lose their temper. i am not justifying that beating someone to a bloody pulp is okay. i am just saying, police are not robots no matter how much you wish they were. they are real people with real feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Libby]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[It is wrong to paint entire races, I agree. My own biases and sadnesses and ego come into play and obviously I often think before I type. Mea culpa. Maybe much of what I feel is coming off of what I did for a living and perhaps it would be better to say that while I started as a bleeding heart, right now I tend to think the worst of humanity and when I am honest, it includes my own damn people.  Social work either makes you a saint or makes you a jerk. I am the latter.  I trust that I will come back to the middle ground someday.  I do not think you are an ass, I love debate and I thoroughly enjoy your site.  I am a &quot;shit stirrer&quot; and my family will tell you I am not just a bitch.... I am a &quot;fucking bitch.&quot; I will forward a picture, nothing great I can assure you. I love men and I must admit that I like them with no special preference for any one look. Like when you post the girls on your site, they are all quite different from each other but have that certain something that appeals to you.  I feel the same way even though some of them are dumber than a box of rocks. That is why birth control rocks.]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></title>
		<link>http://uvtblog.com/2008/05/protect-serve-philadelphia-police-brutality/comment-page-1/#comment-6699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[Lib, I think you&#039;d find that there are more people who are sympathetic to your core position than you know.  It&#039;s impossible to get on board, however, with your sweeping accusations against the hearts and minds of all those people based solely on their racial make up.]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></title>
		<link>http://uvtblog.com/2008/05/protect-serve-philadelphia-police-brutality/comment-page-1/#comment-6698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[Libby, I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re racist.  Don&#039;t think I ever said that.  I just think that if you come on and say &quot;blacks and whites are the worst&quot; then it&#039;s fair to question that.  Hey, clearly you are educated...Colorado is fine thank you.  I&#039;m not that much of an ass.. Well, yes I am, but I respect your education, but I still think your statements are damn near indefensible.  No hate, just calling it like I see it.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;re in a position to make sweeping statements about millions of people is all.  Even I don&#039;t go that far and I&#039;m a wild cat who generally believes in the inherent negativity in most people.  With that said, I believe that people are people, meaning some good and some bad.  Again, you have rightful beef with white folks and I say that as a white dude.  I can&#039;t see how you can blame African Americans globally, for what happened to Native Americans.  I also don&#039;t think you can use isolated incidents and your annoyance with people, to paint entire races.  But that&#039;s just me.  Now, you hate YT, but want to F* survivor boy....  How does that work and when will I get my picture?]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Libby]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[I guess what I don&#039;t get Lake is that most everything you say on your site here is pretty racial in context, but when I come at if from my own viewpoint, you call me a racist. Of course Indians in the Southeast had no issues with whites or blacks, they gave up, gave in and were subdued pretty quickly, they were farmers for christ sake. But,  it was a very different thing with the Plains Indians, they had a bit more shall we say...fortitude, until they were almost annihilated. When I lived in Texas I got so sick of whites and blacks pretending they were united, open minded people. Bullshit, for the most part they hated each other. They smiled and said nice things and then the minute one of them went out of the room, or something went down, they were right there calling each other derogatory names. You  hate me because I just say what I feel is true and make no apologies for it. I am a lot of things, hypocrite is not one of them.]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Libby]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[Every one filters history through their own history, slights, indignities, etc. You do it and so do I.  I did finish my degree at University of Colorado, Boulder, which I know is not up to your standards. But, alas finish it I did, in of all things social work. I got tired of people - of all races and ethnicities and religions - being idiots and breeding idiots at that and I figured only a dumbass tries to help people who do not want to be helped for $34,000 a year. So now, I work for a software company and in the winter teach kids to ski and in the summer drive a ski boat for my brother during race season. I may not be a rocket scientist, but I do o.k.]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[libby]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[Even my own race has issues.  To say that all Indians are the same is to say that all whites come from Britain or all Blacks come from Kenya. And when I lived in the South, it was not just blacks that I observed but a whole lot of idiot whites.  But in your anger at each other, whites and blacks have drowned out everyone else. It is always and only about your two races. It gets tiresome. I am 26, I made it through college and finished at the University of Colorado, Boulder. And some semesters I did brilliantly, others I just did not give a royal shit.  Mainly because I got so tired of the blah blah blah of Ph.D&#039;s who were book smart and life retarded.  I tend to disagree with you about Brazil.  Blacks and indigeneous people get the shaft there and apparently you are not familiar with the assassination squads that thought it was okay to kill poor, homeless minority people. They live in peace, sort of, a very fragile peace, mainly during Mardi Gras. Cops, throughout the world, even tribal police use power against those they police.  Like I said, I think that those officers should get the shit kicked out of them. But, I go back to my original premise, we should all just look at each other from a distance because we sure as shit can&#039;t live together. And that&#039;s a fact.]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lake Arlington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[You&#039;re asking me to read some history?  lol.  Are you serious?  There are black people who fought for the South, ostensibly against their own freedom, in the Civil War and White abolitionists who argued for the humanity of slaves during the antebellum period.  If you&#039;d like, I can find you a White Irish Muslim who has a hit rap album and a rock n roll career, too (Everlast).  My point is that you can find anecdotal evidence to support any hair brained theory, but the preponderance of history shows little to no beef between Black Americans and Native Americans.  Now, show me one of your &quot;books&quot; that justifies your claim that:



&quot;Whites and blacks are the worst. I have never seen two groups filled with more hate.&quot;



I mean, can you actually support that statement with any sort of empirical fact?  And the Ireland issue does NOT support your view.  Your stated position was that the races could not get along, ie. race being the salient and defining factor in societal discord.  I gave you an example where race was controlled for, but yet people were still fighting over something OTHER than race.  I could give you several examples were different races live in relative peace now (Brazil).   



My position is that the officers, and many cops, put less value on black lives and thus beat the living shit out of them with no regard when they&#039;re pissed off given the death of a colleague and that further, that it&#039;s wrong.



But that doesn&#039;t justify your statement that &quot;blacks and whites&quot; are &quot;the worst&quot; with the most hate in their hearts.  And you know that because you saw a few blacks in Houston and GA?  



You sound fairly limited on life experience.  How old are you?  I mean, you say that you have a job, but did you attend a college and study these topics?  Got some degrees?  You sound fairly ridiculous right now.  I think Native Americans have a legitimate beef with American society in general and white Americans in particular, but using your reasoning, it seems like the only ethnicity that is &quot;good&quot; would be, well, your own.  How does that work?]]&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: <![CDATA[Libby]]></title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;![CDATA[By the way, whites suck worse!]]&gt;</description>
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